A conventional defence to an opening three bid whereby a bid in the lower minor (LM ie 3♦ over 3♣ and 4♣ over 3♦/3♥/3♠) is used as a take-out request immediately after the opening bid and a double (X) is used in the fourth seat. Very few pairs use this defence any more, preferring a simple take-out double in both second and fourth seat.